Sunday, August 19, 2007

Amazon, follow-up, more

EDIT, Sunday Aug 19: I am bumping this post to the top, because of a new tactic that Amazon is taking. I clicked on the first link below, Gamecock Magazine, to find that they have removed all the negative comments (including mine)!!! There is some customer/user discussion of this in the forum. Looks like they have also done this for some of the other items too, like the "Dog Pit" book. At least they have (for now) left the tags in place, and the forum(s) as well.
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***/original post from Friday Aug. 17/***
I am just following up on my Amazon animal-fighting post from earlier in the week. Here's more that you can do to tell Amazon what you think: writing customer reviews. I'm thinking that those things are going to be very effective in the long run from Amazon's point of view.

Some suggestions for Amazon animal-fighting products to review:

Gamecock (magazine)
Grit and Steel (magazine)
The Game Cock (book)
History of Game Strains (book)
The Dog Pit - Or, How To Select, Breed, Train And Manage Fighting Dogs (book)
Feathered Warrior (magazine)

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pissed off patricia said...

We were doing a bit of road traveling this weekend. We came up behind an old black pickup truck. On the back window were two decals. Both were black and white and featured a pit bulls head with a spiked collar. As we passed the truck I looked at the driver and he looked at me. His was the face of pure evil. I'll never forget the way he looked.

Nava said...

Nasty cheap little trick by Amazon!

Lynn@zelleblog said...

Hey Blueberry. I've been away so I did not get to follow up more on this discussion.

It seems that the issue tends to move toward free speech discussions which are of course relevant but I think it is also an animal rights issue, or lack of. I understand the argument that we would not want amazon to censor books but on the other hand I think there needs to be a cultural message that abuse and exploitation is unacceptable.

I think we have the right to read books but we also have the right to try to make animal abuse an activity that is marginalized and frowned upon. I think that disregard for animal suffering is a pervasive part of culture and I have no idea how that should be addressed. People say well, its your opinion versus mine.

Well, we are not talking about what color is best for a kitchen. There is harm here. It drives me nuts when people equate things as though the action has no consequence beyond preference.

I dont know but I think its disgusting that people buy them. Maybe Amazon has the right to sell them, but damn, what does this say about us?

I don't know, again, intellectually I see the free speech issue but the rest of me thinks it is unsettling and wrong.

Blueberry said...

Well-said, all. I don't see it as a strictly legal issue either. Maybe it's illegal to sell those things and maybe it isn't -- and maybe it's free speech and maybe it isn't -- but to me it's a bit like this: If the Nazis have a demonstration down at the City Hall and use hate speech orally and written, they are not breaking the law (whereas I'm not sure if it's been determined whether Amazon is breaking the law or not). I am also not breaking the law if I join in a counter-protest in the spirit of showing the other side of the coin and I am free to boycott and protest things that need to change. I don't have to shop in a store that sells pro-Nazi t-shirts if I don't want to, and I will let others know my opinion.

I guess I am saying that it's not OK to do something (especially something that encourages cruelty) just because you can. Not a good enough reason!